Hey skwmk2012, great info. Thanks for sharing!
I love everything about learning how to take good care of the skin, be it natural ways or surgical (but I'm trying my best to resort for alternative ways always). Few weeks ago, I just given up on using toners (esp alcohol-based toners duh..!

they're painful and not healthy to the skin), I started with
Facial Toner system and created my own skin care recipes especially for fine lines and uplifting the sagging areas of my skin. These new methods have helped me a lot.